Wednesday, January 04, 2012

Ben Burtt about the genesis of the TIE fighter sounds

[an excerpt from The Sounds of Star Wars - © Chronicle Books]

The genesis of the TIE fighter sounds is another story, one that began with Ben Burtt's search for the laser gun effect.

Originally, George Lucas had seen a British documentary on PBS about the Battle of Stalingrad in World War II and had noted that the firing sound of some strange Nazi rockets was quite weird and interesting. Lucas mentioned that it might make a great sound for the laser gun and Burtt managed to find a copy of the documentary. He then set about finding sources that could emulate that sound. Luckily, at Twentieth Century Fox Studios, Don Hall let Burtt go through the Fox sound library, where he found recordings of some elephants that had been done for an Errol Flynn movie The Roots of Heaven [1958]. In that film, elephants stampeded and bellowed. with an almost shrieking sound (the same sounds were used for the dinosaurs in Journey to the Center of the Earth).
After making a copy of that recording, Burtt realized that when he slowed it down and stretched it out, he ended up with a sound similar to the rocket one in the PBS documentary.

[The Lost World - 1960]

But it wasn't quite right, so Burtt took the sound of the elephant and mixed it with pass-bys he'd recorded of cars during a rainstorm as they sped through puddles in front of a motel where he was staying (a pass-by is when a vehicle comes toward the viewer, passes by, and then speeds away).
"Swoosh, the car would come by, and you heard this car plowing through the water," he says. "I took that sound still thinking that I was making a laser of some kind." The key "a-ha" moment occurred during temp track auditions, as shots started coming in from ILM of the gunport sequence.
"When we did temp mixes and played it back for the crew at Park Way, I would take advantage of the fresh audience, because the editors hadn't heard anything with sound," Burtt explains.
"The gunport sequence came along with the first trial shots of actual TIEs in motion. There was pressure to just get some temporary sound in for a screening, so I grabbed a random set of sounds I liked and cut in a different one each time a TIE fighter zoomed by," continues Burtt. "One sound was the elephant shriek, the next one was a slowed-down World War II warbird, the next a processed jet or rocket."
After the screening was over, the only talk in the room was about that elephant swoosh sound. "That was the greatest sound for those ships you could have possibly picked!" Of course, I was saying, "Oh yeah, of course". I’d really put it in because I had no other altemative, but it got great reviews, so naturally it became the sound ofthe TIE fighters."
"ln World War II, the super dive bombers had an artificially created siren wail created by air ducts," explains Joe Johnston, visual effects art director. "They didn't serve any purpose except to create this noise, which would terrify people. It was intended that the TIE should achieve the same effect."


  1. Anonymous6/24/2016

    Its Stucca Dive Bomber not super, its a specific type of german plane with the whistle. Stucca is an abbreviation of its long german name.

    1. Well friend, you're also wrong in trying to correct them, because stucco would be a painting technique, and stucca doesn't refer to anything. The word you're looking for is Stuka, short for Sturzkampfflugzeug. Hope this tidbit of info is helpful to you in the future.

    2. Anonymous2/17/2017

      Actually friend, you're also wrong in trying to correct, too! Because the Sturzkampfflugzeug is a type of German boat. Haha, the word you're both looking for is Succa, it's short for Succadikufagit. It's the plane that won WW1. Hope this helped.

    3. Stuka. It's Stuka.

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  3. Hate to revive dead and concluded topics, but no mate, that didn't help. The word Stuka is correct. Stuka is a contraction of, as a previous poster commented, Sturzkampfflugzeug. This was the official German description of the WW2 Luftwaffe's Junkers Ju87 dive bomber. Early in the war, they were commonly fitted with a wind-driven dive siren. The connection to the noise it made compared with the noise created for the TIE Fighter will become clear after you YouTube Stuka dive sirens. Also, as the article alludes to, check out the sound made by the WW2 Russian Katusha rockets. All will be clearer then. Hope this finishes the battle of the words conclusively.